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	<description>Getting inside the mind of a php developer.</description>
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		<title>By: Generation 5 &#187; An Awesome Autoloader for PHP</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalstruct.com/2007/12/23/zend-framework-performance-zend_loader/comment-page-1/#comment-40471</link>
		<dc:creator>Generation 5 &#187; An Awesome Autoloader for PHP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] appears that current opcode caches (as of Jan 2008) don&#8217;t efficiently support autoloading:  Mike Willbanks Experience Slowdown With Zend_Loader APC Developer States That Autoloading is Incompatible With Cacheing Rambling Discussion of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] appears that current opcode caches (as of Jan 2008) don&#8217;t efficiently support autoloading:  Mike Willbanks Experience Slowdown With Zend_Loader APC Developer States That Autoloading is Incompatible With Cacheing Rambling Discussion of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Weier O'Phinney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Weier O'Phinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 12:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike -- a few things: First, you should have some sort of contact form or address on your site;  I wanted to ping you about my next two comments; if you can, email me at &#039;matthew&#039; at zend.

Next, can you re-run your tests with a more recent version of ZF? We made some changes to Zend_Loader to optimize it slightly -- primarily, we removed the call to isReadable() prior to loading a class file; this removes one stat call, which  makes a pretty significant difference in Zend_Loader&#039;s performance as an autoloader. Our internal tests show that at this point, Zend_Loader tends to perform within a few percentage points of a straight require_once.

Third, would it be possible for you to publish the code you used to test, as well as the specs of the environments you tested in (OS, PHP version, php.ini settings, ZF version, etc.)? It&#039;s hard to take these numbers credibly when nobody can independently verify them.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8212; a few things: First, you should have some sort of contact form or address on your site;  I wanted to ping you about my next two comments; if you can, email me at &#8216;matthew&#8217; at zend.</p>
<p>Next, can you re-run your tests with a more recent version of ZF? We made some changes to Zend_Loader to optimize it slightly &#8212; primarily, we removed the call to isReadable() prior to loading a class file; this removes one stat call, which  makes a pretty significant difference in Zend_Loader&#8217;s performance as an autoloader. Our internal tests show that at this point, Zend_Loader tends to perform within a few percentage points of a straight require_once.</p>
<p>Third, would it be possible for you to publish the code you used to test, as well as the specs of the environments you tested in (OS, PHP version, php.ini settings, ZF version, etc.)? It&#8217;s hard to take these numbers credibly when nobody can independently verify them.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: klog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; popularity of php vs java</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalstruct.com/2007/12/23/zend-framework-performance-zend_loader/comment-page-1/#comment-38605</link>
		<dc:creator>klog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; popularity of php vs java</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] However, the PHP was written in MVC using the Zend Framework. It is well known that ZF is slow (particularly if you use Zend_Loader), so this was not really a fair [...]</description>
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